Hi! I have a question about detection box size. Here's what I thought I remembered seeing in the software: I thought that changing the part size in the feeder dialog would change the detection box size. I really thought that I remember seeing this behavior from the software. However, the only way that I can currently get the detection box size to change is by going into "Camera List" > "Camera Edit" and changing "Visual Width" and "Visual Height." I don't see a way to give each type of part a different detection box size. Is there a way to do this? It seems like there should be because we can have so many different size parts, and we have only two cameras. Thanks in advance for your help!
1. Maximum Detection box size setup in camera settings.
If this area is to small the visual area will be cropped! Camera 1 use 12x12mm V1 machines / 14x14mm V2 machines Camera 2 use 19x19mm V1 machines / 24x24mm V2 machines
2. Visual area is set by part size in the feeder settings!
Part Length and Part Width should be set equal size to define this area
Chapter 4.3 in manual
Zitat Part Length: This is important for the visible area definition for the vision system. You need to include the part pins in your measurement! Part Width: This is important for the visible area definition for the vision system. You need to include the part pins in your measurement!
3. The MagnificationFactor in Basic Settings expand this area normally by 2 to cover misaligned parts in visual area.
Chapter 3.13 in manual
ZitatUse the Auto Magnify setting to expand the visual area before vision adjustment. If you set to 1 the function is disabled and you need to define the maximum visual area in your feeder setup directly. You need to define bigger space to allow correction of unadjusted parts they may stay not in the middle or at zero angle!
Hi Michael, Your comments are very helpful. I had read those parts of the manual, but your comments just now make everything clear. Specifically, I had not previously understood "If this area is to small the visual area will be cropped!" Now I understand that. On my machine both cameras were set to 9mm x 8mm, and I had increased them both to 12x12, but I will set them to the 14x14mm and 24x24mm that you specified. Yes, I had understood that part length and width should be set equal. Thank you again for quoting the manual, and please understand that I have been reading it carefully! I had read those sections, but the additional information that you just gave me makes everything clear. Also, just a few minutes ago I placed 18 of 26 parts on my board with very nice accuracy for almost all parts. I will continue to refine my settings, and will post pictures soon. Thank you again for your excellent support.
Hi Everyone, I thought that I would take the time to explain WHY my camera detection area boxes were set to 9mm x 8mm instead of 14mm x 14mm and 24mm x 24mm. I looked at the config_camera.fig file on the CD that came with the machine, and I see that both cameras are set to 9mm x 8mm. The complete contents of the file are shown in the screenshot (you can see that I circled the "9" and "8" which show up twice), but I just wanted to let everyone know that they should watch out for this when they start using their machines. Best, MtnMan
The explanations you provided MtnMan helped me realize the cause of a problem I am having and the solution. However, I do have two questions. I am currently using Vision Placer v2.027.
1. In the discussion it is stated Camera 1 visual area should be set to 14mm X 14mm and Camera 2 should be 24mm X 24mm. I set Camera 1 to 14mm X 14mm successfully. When I attempt to set Camera 2 to 24mm X 24mm I get a “Visual height too big” error message yet MtnMan said he set his system to these values. Is this something that was corrected in the newest version?
2. If I set the package height to 24mm and package width to 24mm then have the part picked and moved to Camera 2 the test visual height and width are automatically set to 48mm each. Setting the package values to 10mm results in test visual height and width values of 20mm each. Is this due to the auto magnify value set to 2?
1. Yes try less value maybe 22x22mm I need to ask for the exact size now.
2. Auto magnify expand this area automatically to catch mispicked parts. You have two options set the area to component size and use auto magnify factor or change to 1 and define your visual area by yourself.